Law Student OWNS Cops – Best Handling Of Manipulative Cops

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New Mexico State University Law Student Joel Martinez calmly OWNS two manipulative sneaky cops from the college police department. Eventually they end up violating his rights under threat, but he makes sure that they articulate their threats first, opening them up to a law suit. Qualified immunity was abolished in New Mexico two years ago.

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41 thoughts on “Law Student OWNS Cops – Best Handling Of Manipulative Cops

  1. What I would like to see if them being held accountable for all the lies they tell in their police reports. If a citizen does it they can be charged with a crime but the do it every day and never have any consequences for it…ridiculous! And this kid is going to be an awesome lawyer!

  2. The only part missing from this tale is whether Joel was violating the university's regulations on alcohol in the dorm.

  3. Though he may not be violating his rights it really should be considered what it would be for anybody else and it comes down to harassment weather legal or not and can and sometimes does cause mental side affects to include but not limited to ptsd. On a side note professionalism should also cover not being condescending

  4. I truly wish I was as smart as him and you too James. For real.
    I need to use my anger productively.
    Coming out of the prison system leaves you with so much hate, leaving a cloud to clear just to attempt to be civilized. Or at least phane it.
    Dealing with DT's that still have qualified immunity is a different beast.
    Thank you for your videos.

  5. Hearsay is not admissible in court, and they know this, but they try to use it as a bases for RAS erytime, LOL. That Redcoat was so determined to win that he said F it and went ahead and rolled the dice on a civil suit. He clearly understood he had no basis so he's faking the funk on misunderstanding an ID law and hoping it will give a blue backer jury member or Crown Magistrate reasonable grounds to let she/her/they off.

  6. not only should qualified immunity be abolished nationwide, but mandatory maximums should be implemented for cops that break the law and violate citizens rights…

  7. 4:51 "We don't have to go down this route" is just Copese for "we can do this the easy way or the hard way", it's code for "but I'm too laaaaaazy to work and want you to hurt yourself for me" and "if you make me work, I'll make you hurt".

    6:25 Indeed. Cops don't care about the law even on the rare occasion when they actually know it, they just do whatever they want and make it up as they go.

    6:30 One of the adages in the dirty-cop-video community is "it doesn't matter if you're right if you're <six feet under>", meaning you may be right, but that doesn't stop cops from hurting you (or worse). In other words, you have to juts let corrupt cops break the law to minimize the harm they do. 🤦

    6:31 Sadly, that's true. We've seen plenty of examples of corrupt courts upholding unlawful arrests and backing up corrupt cops. They say not to fight cops, not to "resist" or "obstruct" and just let them unlawfully arrest you and just accept all of the collateral damages that ensue until you get to court to fight it there (along with all of the expenses to do so), but that doesn't mean an unlawful arrest will be dismissed, BS charges dropped, let alone anything for the cops like excessive force punished. 🤦

    7:35 There is "fruit of the poisonous tree" anymore, they'll take whatever they want. They count anonymous tips as "evidence" like it's Salem 1692.

    8:30 For a second there, I thought James was drinking a beer as a joke because the cops are trying to arrest a 19yo law-student for having beer.

    14:15 Martin Mull looks too old and tired to care about this but has to do this becasue of his department's "policies". 😒

    15:45 Why is the cop asking if the kid has warrants for his arrest when we all know he's assuming he does, cops are trained to think that EVERYBODY has multiple warrants because EVERYBODY is a dangerous criminal. That's why they have such a hard on for demanding IDs, to get an excuse to GET TO arrest people when they're not committing a crime.

    15:58 The (19yo) kid is suspected of having beer in his college dorm-room, and the cops seeing his ID will confirm if that's the case or not… hoooooooow? 🤔

    16:21 When asked for consent to search his room, the kid should tell the old guy "no, of course not, I don't want you looking at my underwear, you weirdo 😒". (Also, we KNOW that the cops won't stop at searching places where a CASE of beer could be stored, they'd still look in every nook and cranny where it obviously couldn't be, in the hopes of finding something, anything else. 🙄)

    16:58 They "do have" suspicion that a crime has POSSIBLY been committed, huh? Really? An anonymous tip that a 19yo college student has beer in his dorm-room is suspicion of a "crime"? And how do they know it's not a tip by an angry kid who just doesn't like this one and lied? 🤨 Kids can be Karens too.

    A 20.9973 year old is allowed to vote and join the military and do all the other things an adult can do, but not have a beer. 🙄 But unlike the 26th amendment that people demanded the right to vote at 18 if they're able to fight and die for their country, this isn't going to change. The stakes are too low and the profits from "fines" are too high.

    22:45 The cop elided right over the key word in that statue he was reading, "the DUE execution of the law". They have to be doing their job legally and correctly for it to count as "obstruction" or "failure to identify", they can't just walk around and demand ID without cause. (Then again, they can. Cases like Heien v North Carolina (2014) established that cops can do whatever they want so long as they SAY they THOUGHT they were correct.)

    23:15 We've heard this SOOOOOO MANY TIMES. "The ID is so we can identify who were are talking to" but they never say WTF that matters or HTF that helps them investigate anything. 🙄

    23:30 "Concealing identity" should only count as an active action, not a passive one. Burning a wallet should count, but simply not saying anything shouldn't. SHOULDN'T, but it does because the law is garbage. The cops and the law expect you to actively help cops ruin your life. Gandhi would be beaten to a pulp for his "passive resistance" because cops expect you to walk to the car so they can arrest you, if you just lie limp and force them to pick you up and carry you to car, they'll call that "obstruction". 🙄 The only thing they don't expect their victims to do and will actually bother doing themselves is the physical assault, they WANT to do that part. (Thought I wouldn't be surprised if some are so lazy, they actually expect people to literally hit themselves for them. 😒)

    24:33 "What's your last name?" the cop asks while HOLDING HIS ID. 😒 I know most cops are uneducated because the educated applicants are weed out at the resumé stage, but a lot of them are literally functionally illiterate too (we've seen plenty of incident reports that prove that with the spelling, punctuation, and grammar of a tiktok-zoomer).

    24:35 😂 Indeed. This kid keeps calling them out on everything, on how his ID will prove if he has beer or not, on them asking his name after they have his ID, and so on.

    24:55 Why are the cops explaining things to random kids in the hall (and not the comedy group)? 🤨 Do they have no concept of privacy or are they intentionally doing this to embarrass him? They do realize that it's not going to embarrass him and only make him more popular in the dorm, right? 😒

    25:15 Wait, so the cop just said that now that they've negated the "concealing ID", they don't have to pursue that anymore and can "just take a report to document" the accusation of a 19yo having a case of beer and leave. Um, wtf happened to the investigation? WTF happened to finding out if a minor has alcohol or not? 🤨 This is how it always is, whenever cops "investigate" minor crimes like this, they know it's a waste of time to pursue, so they only obsess over getting the person's ID to run them through the system to see if there's some other reason they can arrest them, and if not, then they put them in the system "for the future", they don't actually bother with the minor crime. 😠 (Well, sometimes they will, but often they'll just use it as an opportunity to manufacture a secondary charge instead.)

    25:33 Yeah, cops have said that a lot, that they "need" to get people's ID to write a report. I don't know why they "need" names and addresses and birth-dates and blood-types and favorite positions in bed and such to write reports. WTF they can't just write "made contact with college student suspected of having alcohol" and such. 🙄 (Of course, I'm being facetious, they want ID to check for warrants and to put them in the system for the future; once you're in you're in forever, they NEVER "expunge" anything like they claim.)

    25:58 Gotta love how the cop is trying to act magnanimous like he's being nice and doing him a favor by not "locking down" the dorm-room (which is probably shared) and making the kid and his roommate homeless for who knows how long, hours, days, weeks, until they can get a warrant to search it for a case of beer (yet another expense that won't be recouped once the charges are dropped). – Of course, he's not actually being magnanimous, he's just making the threat to scare everybody, he knows full-well he'd never get a warrant. Imagine the cop going to a judge's home on the weekend and asking them to sign a warrant to search a dorm-room because a law-student in college may or may not have a case of beer. 🙄

    27:09 The cop said the hallway in the college-dorm is a "common area", so they're "allowed to be here". Um, no, not even a little. The cops can't just hang out in a private dorm, even in the hallway if they're not conducting official police business. Now that they're "investigation" (that they abandoned and didn't bother doing) is concluded, they CAN'T just hang out there. If they could, then anybody could since it's a "common area". Okay, so randos off the street can wander in and hang out in the halls of the dorm, homeless people can sleep there without getting hassled by the cops, right? 🤨 🙄

  8. Biggest walk of shame going viral for the world to witness!
    These POS power tripping scumbag cops just got the slap they needed!

  9. Put them in prison together, you all know cops get PC'd if and when they end up jailed. Make them police themselves and see how that turns out.
    The rule for acceptance into police work should be: Anybody that desires to be policed, should be excluded from consideration.

  10. I'd love to see the follow-up where the kid finds out that cheif Donovan doesn't give a fuck about him, and just told him what he wanted to hear.

  11. Now two things I hope qualified immunity doesn’t apply to both of those cops. Also when this goes to litigation, we need to see the deposition of these clowns and I hope this guy gets the big bag.

  12. I saw this clip before and it was totally obvious Joel didn't have any alcohol in his dorm. It was a setup where one of his friends called in to make a show. From an activist standpoint to educate fellow citizens of their rights, I give it 10 out of 10. I also give a 10 out of 10 from the angle of pedagogy in itself. For the Police I also have to give out a 10 out of 10. They played their roles for anyone to see, but never went out of line. Kudos to everyone involved.

  13. Never knew a law student would be under age? Perhaps he graduated high school at 14 or 15? Probably, pre-law. Nonetheless, good work Joel.

  14. Here's the deal we dont know what the fu@k we are doin so just do whatever we tell you to do and we probably won't beat the sh*t out of you………..we still mite thought

  15. Plus what kid doesn’t drink at college? There’s gotta been more important things to handle than this. 😂😂😂Kid will be a boss one day in the courtroom 😂😂😂

  16. From what I understand it is possible for a call to give RAS for a detention. But what I don't understand about that is how a cop is to know if the call rises to that standard. The call is made to dispatch with the details that the cop is more than likely not going to know. Dispatch is going to give police the short version and send them out .

  17. I love it when he tells them they don’t have qualified immunity. I wish the rest of the country would adopt that policy. I hope he sues them into oblivion.

  18. CJNC shows more respect to civilians than the fucking pigs do along with the system that forces you to pay thousands to "prove" your innocence and if you dont its a shit chance like wtf? land of the what? home of the corrupt?

  19. 25:56 Yes they could go to a judge and pass the buck off to him (put the QI problem on the judge) and maybe get a warrant… But I think the judge will tell them that hearsay isn't sufficient to search the room! This whole shenanigan is based on what someone said!
    If that was enough, then that's what every cop would say "we got a report that you have drugs in your room!"

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