Why is Putin so Popular When People Are so Poor? – RAI With A. Buzgalin (9/12)

On Reality Asserts Itself, Prof. Alexandr Buzgalin says under the slogans liberal democracy and market capitalism was delivered chaos and crime; Putin stands for traditional Russian values and culture, social order and making Russia great again – with host Paul Jay

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50 thoughts on “Why is Putin so Popular When People Are so Poor? – RAI With A. Buzgalin (9/12)

  1. Marx himself would be ashamed. You clearly know the history, you have studied it. Yet, you cannot answer the question of why there is no other social democratic opposition (you leave out the social democratic aspects in your answer), and only attack liberalism while advocating for Russians' needs for strong leadership. You basically end up with a political system that is without liberal or social democratic aspects – so, the same kind of oppressive society MARX was trying to get away from. You also forget that Putin is himself asserting market capitalism, not the West. Then you praise Putin for it. Absolutely chaotic argument. *Facepalm*.

  2. True the multi-millionaires billionaires multi-billionaires and emerging trillionaires who whose role (s)-and-responsibilities is to own-and-organise/reign-and-rule/command-control either their big business or medium-sized business and either directly/overtly/explicitly lobby as donor's or indirectly/covertly/implicitly lobby through-and-under think-tank's charities and special interest's who veil their political-legal-economic interest's-and-issues/care's-and-concerns/woe's-and-worries behind social-cultural/socio-cultural view's-and-values/sensibilities-and-sensitivities/opinion's-and-perspectives/thought's-and-feelings so fomenting-and-fostering an alliance between organised religion such as and specifically organised christianity and such as and specifically organised islam and nationalism such as and specifically ethnic nationalism/racial nationalism

  3. In other words, people in Russia today are not poor. As one now deceased american who moved to Russia permanently wrote me, they are now as it was in US during '50es. Finally good and every year better. OK, they had one blow when US starts economic war (sanctions!!!) before few years but now it is every day better. And they remember how it was in socialism when all lived like american low middle class, but without debt. They remember how it was during american stile of capitalism 1991-2000. Oligarchs, inequality, huge poverty, insecurity, gangs wars and violence. Infrastructural collapse, number of cities without electricity, thermal heating ect. And they remember how becomes when Putin came to power, first stabilization then, recuperation, discipline of oligarchs and liquidation those who wanted to continue looting and taking out of billions into Britain and US. Then recuperation of economy and infrastructure, rise of standard. Military consolidation. They still have some remains of that US decade in their country, some percentage of poor people but it is way less and under control. It is capitalism but regulated, with lot of social benefits and safety nets. And of course, there was crisis because of sanctions, my friend from Moscow tells me that they are really lacking – france cheese. They have their russian but it is not so god. All other what they were buying from the world now they have own, in same quality. But cheese… This is biggest problem for them. And one important thing, they know that war is coming, nuclear war, they remember '80es US when nuclear attack on CCCP was on the brink, they know that it would happen again, soon, when US start to collapse, they will attack.

  4. bad example there at about 00:30 … I have seen women like that in snow, rain, burning sun – but totally faking the poverty or ailment, etc … I used to follow them when they finished their days (about the same time I was commuting home) and notice how they transformed after a few hundred meters … limp goes away, dirty bag goes into another regular shopping bag, scarf off, hair pulled back, walking upright and by the time they get to the metro just another day in the office and on the way home. I have done this three separate times … similar experience, once she met up with a larger group, family I think, and they all had been doing it, panhandling. A better example of poverty is to leave the city and see how people live in the country – almost medieval, but many of them choose this lifestyle. Poverty in Moscow itself is very very low from what I have seen.

  5. I wish it was addressed what the residual socialist elements today in Russia are. I think higher education is still free, the country has universal health care, and I think Russian pensions are better than SS say in the US. I'm not sure about the oil and the natural gas, I think there are state companies for them. I know Professor Buzgalin earlier said private versus nationalized doesn't mean that much in Russia (I wish that have been explained more clearer), but anyway I wish what is still socialist/quasi-socialist about Russia still to this day had been discussed.

  6. Quick look at the poverty in Russia prior to Putin's rise to power is your answer. Today's economic hardship is caused by US sanctions predominantly. Russians understand that and Putin's line of credit is bigger than ever.

  7. Can it be because Putin is making a difference for the better? Everything is relative. We have it much better than Russians but comparing to our past we are slowly going down.

  8. Why don't you talk about skid row in Carlifonia and many other homeless joints where Americans are living in abject poverty. Across the whole of the USA these homeless joints can be found. The hypocrisy of the West is beyond comprehension.

  9. When you want a serious answer to this question then ask a sane person.
    The words "ideolog" and "idiot" are synonymous.

  10. Love ya Paul, but it's time to pass the ole microphone onto someone more eloquent and interesting to watch. Aaron Mate is perfect, find someone similar. No disrespect, you just don't keep the viewer engaged and it's difficult grasping the point and a lot of the time even what is being said. I'm sure you're probably a great researcher, stick to that. Just a friendly 2 cents.

  11. Maybe because some people believes in other values not just money? My grandma used to tell me, as long you're happy with what you got you're a rich man.

  12. He hits the nail on the head when he says the crisis is liberal capitalism — Yes, this is what Marx knew 70 years earlier — Capitalism is exploitive and does not work — Problem with world is the economic incentives that have risen up since the Industrial Revolution —- Capitalism has allowed criminal banking and corporate class to rig system that they are now trying to turn into some kind of socialistic dystopia (going back to a type of feudalism, with them being lords and the masses being serfs). WE need a decentralized system of economics where working together is rewarded, but where WORKING is rewarded as well. Those at the top want to be rentiers and those at the bottom want crandle to grave socialism no matter how bad it is as long as they are guarnateed a living. This is what is wrong with the world. Hopefully block chain decentralized and disruptive nature can get millenials to see that their value is from the individual and his choice to join a group or project. — we all must contribute and if people need help then it is their communities that should support them (not the STATE).

  13. The US was meant to be a country where people have freedom and liberty and know how to take of themselves, it is turning into a nanny state (on purpose by elites) to create the same kind of people that exist is Russia – unable to stand on their own to feet. The take the scraps that the corrupt elites throw to them from the table, it really is sad and the idiot people fall for it.

  14. What a pleasure to listen to an intelligent, conversation, with balanced and sane views. Please, where is the second part?? Thank you to the organisation for making it, and the Professor for his sane discussion [even if I dont quite agree with all of it]. I'd like to study more of his work.

  15. What strikes me is how much of what Mr Buzgalin talks about--kids helping out Cuba or Vietnam, kids cleaning schools, working with farmers during summer—I have heard from my wife. She is younger but lived her youth in CCCP. She often says people did not have time is money mentality, buying & selling constantly on the brain. It was not a paradise —men drank too much and there were unquestionably deficits in consumer goods, the life was physically much more difficult; however a mining/industrial city (think Scranton PA/ Patterson NJ) would have cultural amenities on par with the capital—not like there is Boulder & then there is West Virginia—Universities were not dominated by elites like here. Women did all jobs surgeon, brick layer, chemist, musician. And as he relates, the 90's run by University of Chicago-Harvard/US State Dept were an absolute catastrophe for people—the whole country turned into a ghetto—

  16. A lot of these American exceptionalists cannot understand the humiliation Russia went through after the fall of the USSR and through the 90s. To a country that did more damage to Nazi Germany than anyone, becoming a laughing stock to the West was not right and would not stand.

  17. Interviewer is trash, grasping at straws and misinterpreting what he's told. I suggest getting out of the American thought bubble and exercising empathy.

  18. Returning to religion is not being regressive. We in the West are so used to debunking it based on 'religion's' massive mistakes, that we have lost touch completely with what it is at its core.
    In the meantime, consumer, now neoliberal, society has leveled all culture, all human values, all substance, all true individuality.

  19. The U.S. has professionalized the field of "Democracy Assistance", employing tactics used by the CIA years ago that are now out front and in the open. We don't "meddle" , we just help fund opposition movements in many countries to “destabilize progressive movements, particularly those with a socialist or democratic-socialist bent.” BINGO
    https://monthlyreview.org/2006/12/01/the-myths-of-democracy-assistance-u-s-political-intervention-in-post-soviet-eastern-europe/

  20. Cliffhanger contin'd – now is V. Putin a DICTATOR or not? (question in 8/10 not yet answered in 9/10) – Malgré soi, to keep things together, or out of his own most evil volition (about which the West gets so heated up)? This question has not been answered.

  21. answer very easy: a non-stop brainwashing propaganda on TV. And our ppl (I'm Russian myself) are very much dependant and influenced by that. Me personally hate huylo (Putin)

  22. When a country is encircled by its enemies and threatened, the people unite behind their leader. There's always talk about the Russian military being only thirty miles from the Estonian border; no one mentions that the Russians are in their own country, but Estonia is occupied by foreign forces that are close to the Russian border. And Trump's Iranian threats are nonsense: Iran has a defense treaty with both Russia and China. Trump is an idiot.

  23. Putin's ratings were at the all-time low around 45% in 2013 at the peak of the income growth, oil prices, – still higher than any western counterpart of his. Then came the "prosperity, democracy and order" that the US Dept. of State created in Europe, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afganistan, Yemen, and finally Ukraine. Given such a backdrop Mr. Putin looks like a very decent alternative to anyone with a brain. Russians feel very real pain and fear watching Ukraine, and pride and relief for the Crimea. Everything else is secondary. Pride, oligarchs, communists, paternalism – there's a bit everything.

  24. A member of an oligarchy, someone who is part of a small group that runs a country.
    A very rich person, particularly with political power; a plutocrat.
    A rich man who used his wealth to gain political power and who would use political power to enrich himself once in office.
    Sounds like the United States as well as Europe Russia China !

  25. In a discussion about why Putin is as inexplicably popular as he is, it's extremely remiss to not mention the role of the domestic press, which in Russia, is anything but free. For democracy to flourish and any credible opposition to gain traction, a free press is indispensable. Unfortunately, any criticism of the corruption and failures committed by Putin's government is controlled or suppressed while simultaneously the ill-informed masses are fed a steady diet of scapegoats to blame for their problems by the state-controlled news agencies which have a monopoly on mass media in Russia. If the average Russian is being led by fear and to conservatism it's largely due to the effects of gaslighting by the non-free Russian press.

    This is not to suggest that the news media landscape in the US and West is perfect or doesn't on average favor the wealthy and powerful. However, it's at another level in present-day Russia. And — alongside the complementary actions of jailing, exiling, and assassinating gadflies and opponents in their infancy before they can organize a mass movement or spark mass dissent — it largely explains the teflon popularity of Putin.

  26. In the late 19th, early 20th century, Marxism was widely popular among the Russian intelligentsia, in much the same way campus PC thinking is popular in the US today — it was, in other words, something lying on the surface, like a fashion, not a deeply thought through philosophy of life. The leading philosophers and thinkers of that era — Solovyov, Berdyaev, S. Bulgakov, among a number of others — virtually all went through a Marxist phase, but grew beyond it without, incidentally, embracing at the same time liberal individualism. They rejected that as well.

    This is an excellent series and I am so glad to have discussions like this, light years more thoughtful than the idiocy of mainstream media. All the same, I would suggest that you need to take a deeper look, Paul, at Russian intellectual traditions. It is not the black and white you imagine between 'religious obscurantism' and progressivism. This attempt at a synthesis of what is best in the pre- and post- Soviet past is an ongoing project, one in which prominent Orthodox Church intellectuals are also participating. It is not easy to do. But given the deep influence of Hegel in Russian culture, it is a logical ongoing project for Russia.

  27. Probably partly of the problem of Russia may be the American/European blocking of their economy…The fact that the OTAN is blocking their borders and threatening war…That US has imposed all kinds of sanctions…

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