Historian Vijay Prashad takes apart the Khashoggi murder and relates it to the deep-rooted ideological and historical conflict between Turkey and Saudi Arabia
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Turkey lies agree to Saudi Arabia
Natural political leader of ME is Turkey ….prpht say what a great leader he would be the person that conquer Constantinople….remnant of Constantinople is still the natural leader of the ME….UK and France knows this….and they are trying to stop her ….. Erdogan is hated by the west bcus is a brave intelligent and Muslim….MBS is just a thug if America and the west has failed to defeat erdogan this guy must be full to think of fighting him…. Erdogan successfully black mail German,France was in trouble bcus of him,UK is wise enough to play their dirty game quietly…. America failed …..A time is coming when Erdogan we have enough influence to call citizen of arab to remove their leader…..but he is wise enough to know Shia Iran will benefit from this as much as Turkey…. Qatar Kuwait and Oman will soon turn back from this guy
its how ridiculous people just read tittle and they have no info what is going on right? no journalist in prison in turkey because of their news or speech. all its about their membership of illegal groups some of them isis some of them other terror groups and which groups attempt the coup. i would love to see if isis all members get a title of journalist and try to go usa or Europa and if someone say something. all of them might not be in jail but killed right away im sure.so if being a journalist make them untouchable what ever they do stupid isis fighter or controlled guys they should have a camera and a license says journalist and in their back bag what ever they want and get done your action
Gina Haspel is a walking zombie.
MBS = Mr. Bone Saw
The rivalry between Arab and Turks can be described in Rev 9 : 12 – 21. World Woe 2 begins with
Seljuk Turks new converts to Islam and their expansion beginning with the Battle of Manzikert
near Lake Van 19 Aug 1071 !! Known as " That Terrible Day " !! The Month of May 29 , 1453 the
fall of Constantinople , Turks take the name of the Third righty guided Caliph Uthman ,now
Called the Ottoman Turkish Empire. ,!! The year is 1915 and the Armenian Genocide !!
The same hour of Rev 11 : 13 , 14 is Sept. 11 , 2001 and the angel is POTUS 43 and GWBUSH
The " angel on 9 / 11 !! History understood by the scriptures concerning OUR Time!!!
instead of talking about islamic countries… why not you talk about India and Kashmir and killings of Muslims in Gujrat. If you think your ship doesn't stink then you are wrong Vijay…..
Much is not known publicly about this affair. The crown prince as head of Saud security for a year thought he was in with the CIA. When he "consolidated power" he stepped on the wrong toes. Then Khashoggi became disenchanted with the regime, moved to the US and became a CIA asset (washington post).
That of one individual being tortured and killed has no bearing in this game of politics. A fly on the wall of the 15 minuet meeting between Pompeo (CIA) and the king knows more than we do.
Good point. Turkish president hates MBS for personal reason.
as bad as Turkey has acted in recent times and yes they jailed many people but to go to another country and use their own counsel to murder a man and cut him into pieces is not something they or anyone else ever did, MBS is a fucking psychopath and Turkey will expose him for what he is, it happened in their country,how dare the Saudis do something like this in another country, who ta fuck do they think they are
The majority of US citizens barely recognize the geography of the Middle East let alone any History that is fundamental to understanding the issues and dynamic between the countries. This depth of ignorance is dangerous…US taxpayers are funding – at enormous domestic cost – an ongoing war against people they know nothing about
Mbs getting dethroned as we watch!! He went M.I.A. after that terrible conference!!
it is turkish that has build Mecca And madina they are real muslim but infidel fingerring towards tayab
this infidel are too much greedy and wants to achieve some wealth from muslim
this infidel does not telling about british role and european because he is hindu and anti muslim activist
So Muslims……"How many of the first 4 Righteous Caliphs were elected by public elections?" When did Allah Change to democracy? If Rasulullah(SAW) is Allah(SWT)'s Final Messenger…….WHO BROUGHT THE DEMOCRACY MESSAGE? Don't bother telling me your answers. My questions are for you to ask YOURSELF AS MUSLIMS. Re-assess yourself and seek Taubah.
I bet Gina got a boner listening to the audio of a journalist being tortured & killed.
The Saudi Royal family's Wahhabi faction are Sabatean Jews who "converted" to Islam and then conned their way into the Saudi tribe.
They are tied to Israel much like a donkey to its legs.
At least Turkey doesn't chop up it's Journalist, and why should we talk about 1 saudi journalist while an whole country is bombed, suffers from hunger and disease?? Sometimes I wish the world was an better place…..
No, for the Saudi the conflict is less about republics vs monarchies as it is between US-Saudi-supported dictatorships (like al-Sisi in Egypt) versus relatively more representative systems (MB, Mursi, Iran, Lebanon, Turkey). The Saudis depend on the US to maintain their autocracy, so they support fellow US-supported autocrats and fear more popular/representative/democratic movements and states.
Question is how west is in the rule of Arab countries, and how much Saud family is in rule over West Europe and USA. I think second is more adequate.
I heard monarchy is against Islamic teachings
If this bone-saw murder changes nothing, no one of importance prosecuted or removed from power, surely all the fiction clearly indicates that the only goal in it was to terrorize reporters and draw attention away from all the slaughter in Yemen.
It is amazing that we never get these discussions in the mainstream media.
Again with Sharmini, fuck! This beautiful lady is in no way suited to be a television anchor, enough!
"I look forward to you next week"? What? You guys going on a date?
Always learn from Vijay. Put his name in the title please; you'll get more views.
The only reasonable observation I can make is this: Turkish Prison, or dismemberment for journalists? Both are terrifying. Both are suppressive. Both are cliché, and barbaric. When will mankind embrace peaceful protest as a means of change?
Russia is supporting Turkey's
investigation. Also, some Saudis
who want to take MBS down.
Some in the M.E. are calling
MBS the new Saddam Hussein.
Its not so much Saudi vs Muslim brotherhood but Saudi vs any Muslim country in the region that is not a kingdom and has some sort of democratic process. They pretty much hate democracy all together.
Gina Haspel is straight out of horror movies! (may i suggest her role played by Joan Allen of Bourne movies)
Joker: Did you hear the one about Haspel?
bystander: No…
Joker: So the prez sent Haspel to Turkey to listen to and look at the intelligence of the "hacking" of cashoggi…
bystander: yeah. so?
Joker: So upon hearing the blood curdling sounds and images, Haspel turns to turkish intelligence and says…."wow was that a black and decker model 3500 400 rpm saw? Nice choice!" [rim-shot] LOL! Haspel loves the sounds of torture.
Maybe Wahadism, being a ruthless headchopping cult, needs the absolute authority of a monarch to hold it together and keep it in place.
i am no a fan of the zionist saudis but i must correct the statement made, that Erdogan may be worried about Muslims from Turkey barred or not allowed to make Hajj. Hajj is one of the five pillars of Islam, this will immensely rather permanently forever boost Erdogan's status. the saudis will never even think of it let alone enforce it. if we look back at the beginning of the hostilities they have with Iran, the saudis stop direct commercial flights to Iran then closed their embassy in Iran and cut all ties to Iran, of course at the request of the zionist regime. however immediately afterwards they announced all Iranians can perform Hajj regularly as they wish. if the saudis try to ban any Muslim country, which trust me it'll never happen, from making Hajj. the whole Muslim world will unite against them and they won't last a week. even the US, Russia and China combined wont be able to help them.
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I think think Erdogan has burned his Saudi bridges and is now going to burn 🔥down the House of Saud itself.
Sisi came to power through a military Coup stays in power through sham elections
Morsi was the only legitimate President elect in thirty plus years of Egyptian history.
respect to vijay